Adobe Announces Flash Lite 3, Maybe For iPhone

Edward Kirk · October 2nd, 2007, 07:21 PM

This Monday Adobe announced the arrival of their new flash player, Flash Lite 3, an important update to their animation suite for mobile devices. This addition is the first to play video back in their own FLV video format, as well as the first to support animations written in Flash 8, greatly expanding the number of sites that will display properly. There is also speculation that this new revision may be the one to finally end up on the iPhone.

In addition to playing back FLV video format and Flash 8 support, the new Flash Lite 3 also gains an alleged 20% performance jump, making streaming video and progressive downloading more smooth and elegant.

Adobe claims that availability of version 3 is going to depend on handset makers. Officially speaking, it's due to support Windows Mobile, Symbian Series 60 OS, and Qualcomm's BREW platform. Media players and PDAs will also support it. Hopefully we will see it on the iPhone as well, but as of yet there is no word of iPhone/ iPod Touch support.

[via MacNN]

Hans · October 2nd, 2007, 08:16 PM #2

oh please oh please oh please!!!
man apple needs to get this to us, it might almost make losing apps worth it to upgrade and get flash

dimitrin · **cross fingers but...** - October 2nd, 2007, 11:51 PM #3

I'm mean apple has been sooooo bad, I bet they will not let you have stand alone apps in flash. So it is good but not nearly as good as 3rd party apps. in my pessimistic outcome...

I hope that apple wakes up and smells the solder! real 3rd party apps are what will make the iphone the killer platform. We all know that.

But to be positive pray for a Flash SA player and 3rd party apps!

I love my iphone even if it doesn't have wifi itunes shop

donlphi · October 3rd, 2007, 01:53 AM #4

Flash would make web apps actually tolerable. This is exciting news, but we'll see how it actually works.

The 3rd party apps weren't that great, they were just cool compared to what was on the phone already.

vertigo · October 3rd, 2007, 02:07 AM

I doubt if apple is really dying to let people get flash on their phone. First of all, new betas of the flash 9 player will allow for playback of H.264 content, thus negating the need of sites like "youtube" to transcode to both H.264 and flv. Now you just do h.264 and it plays natively in iPhone.

Second of all, adobe has been tracking to release this for a while, and if photoshop and the rest of their software lineup has been any indication, they aren't exactly synchronized on trying to get a product out together. Letting it play video was more for the windows mobile people than for the iPhone.

Third, as a flash developer, flash lite 3 is nowhere near as good as an iPhone SDK. I can't begin to stress that enough. I think i would actually have to recompile a lot of stuff for flash lite 3 playback, so I'm not sure if the millions of swfs that are out there now will play in it.

chr1s60 · October 3rd, 2007, 02:07 AM #6

I hope this ends up on iPhone. I only have a few complaints about the phone and lack of flash support is one of them. The real question is IF this will work on iPhone, WHEN will it be available?

**Separate ways** - October 9th, 2007, 01:20 AM #7

From FAQ about Flash Lite, Adobe is not on the same train as Apple.
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashlite/faq/

Q.
Will Flash Lite 3 support Flash 9.x content?
A.
Flash 9.x content support is on the Flash Lite roadmap and will be addressed as this content becomes more pervasive and critical to mobile and consumer electronic devices.

It is important to remember that Flash Lite 3 supports about 85% of all Flash enabled websites today and that users will not necessarily access the same types of websites on a mobile or consumer electronic device that they would in a desktop environment, due to constraints in device (screen size, processors, RAM, input methods, battery) and bandwidth (limited 3/3.5G availability).

Here, ways of thinking over mobile web browsing are totally different between Adobe and Apple.

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Edward Kirk WrAdminterizer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Illinois, USA Posts: 3,084 Thanks: 19 Thanked 26 Times in 25 Posts	Adobe Announces Flash Lite 3, Maybe For iPhone - October 2nd, 2007, 07:21 PM #1
	This Monday Adobe announced the arrival of their new flash player, Flash Lite 3, an important update to their animation suite for mobile devices. This addition is the first to play video back in their own FLV video format, as well as the first to support animations written in Flash 8, greatly expanding the number of sites that will display properly. There is also speculation that this new revision may be the one to finally end up on the iPhone. In addition to playing back FLV video format and Flash 8 support, the new Flash Lite 3 also gains an alleged 20% performance jump, making streaming video and progressive downloading more smooth and elegant. Adobe claims that availability of version 3 is going to depend on handset makers. Officially speaking, it's due to support Windows Mobile, Symbian Series 60 OS, and Qualcomm's BREW platform. Media players and PDAs will also support it. Hopefully we will see it on the iPhone as well, but as of yet there is no word of iPhone/ iPod Touch support. [via MacNN] __________________ About my iPhone: iPhone & Color: iPhone 3G 16GB White iPhone Version: 3.0 Computer & OS: MacBook Pro 15", Mac OS X 10.5.4 Twitter

Hans Super Moderator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 391 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	October 2nd, 2007, 08:16 PM #2
	oh please oh please oh please!!! man apple needs to get this to us, it might almost make losing apps worth it to upgrade and get flash

dimitrin iPA Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	cross fingers but... - October 2nd, 2007, 11:51 PM #3
	I'm mean apple has been sooooo bad, I bet they will not let you have stand alone apps in flash. So it is good but not nearly as good as 3rd party apps. in my pessimistic outcome... I hope that apple wakes up and smells the solder! real 3rd party apps are what will make the iphone the killer platform. We all know that. But to be positive pray for a Flash SA player and 3rd party apps! I love my iphone even if it doesn't have wifi itunes shop

donlphi New Recruit Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	October 3rd, 2007, 01:53 AM #4
	Flash would make web apps actually tolerable. This is exciting news, but we'll see how it actually works. The 3rd party apps weren't that great, they were just cool compared to what was on the phone already.

vertigo New Recruit Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Curiouser and curiouser - October 3rd, 2007, 02:07 AM #5
	I doubt if apple is really dying to let people get flash on their phone. First of all, new betas of the flash 9 player will allow for playback of H.264 content, thus negating the need of sites like "youtube" to transcode to both H.264 and flv. Now you just do h.264 and it plays natively in iPhone. Second of all, adobe has been tracking to release this for a while, and if photoshop and the rest of their software lineup has been any indication, they aren't exactly synchronized on trying to get a product out together. Letting it play video was more for the windows mobile people than for the iPhone. Third, as a flash developer, flash lite 3 is nowhere near as good as an iPhone SDK. I can't begin to stress that enough. I think i would actually have to recompile a lot of stuff for flash lite 3 playback, so I'm not sure if the millions of swfs that are out there now will play in it.

chr1s60 Forum Ninja Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 119 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	October 3rd, 2007, 02:07 AM #6
	I hope this ends up on iPhone. I only have a few complaints about the phone and lack of flash support is one of them. The real question is IF this will work on iPhone, WHEN will it be available?

nao2g Guest Posts: n/a	Separate ways - October 9th, 2007, 01:20 AM #7
nao2g Guest Posts: n/a	From FAQ about Flash Lite, Adobe is not on the same train as Apple. http://www.adobe.com/products/flashlite/faq/ Q. Will Flash Lite 3 support Flash 9.x content? A. Flash 9.x content support is on the Flash Lite roadmap and will be addressed as this content becomes more pervasive and critical to mobile and consumer electronic devices. It is important to remember that Flash Lite 3 supports about 85% of all Flash enabled websites today and that users will not necessarily access the same types of websites on a mobile or consumer electronic device that they would in a desktop environment, due to constraints in device (screen size, processors, RAM, input methods, battery) and bandwidth (limited 3/3.5G availability). Here, ways of thinking over mobile web browsing are totally different between Adobe and Apple.